Dumbledore Clues



These are some of the excellent clues contained in the pages of Harry Pottter and the Half-Blood Prince which support the possibility that Dumbledore is not really dead, or at least Snape killed Dumbledore on Dumbledore's orders, and that everything that happened that night was planned well in advance by Dumbledore himself.

Each one of these clues is perhaps, by itself not completely convincing, but if you put them all together...

(Page numbers shown are for US Edition/UK Edition.)

1. Dumbledore's Big Chill

Harry and Dumbledore are up on the top of the tower underneath the Dark Mark. Harry is wearing his invisibility cloak, Dumbledore ordered him to put it on before they mounted their brooms to ride to the top of the tower. Harry hears footsteps and looks around, but Dumbledore orders him with a gesture to retreat. Harry draws his wand and backs away:

The door burst open and somebody erupted through it and shouted, "Expelliarmus!" Harry's body became instantly rigid and immobile, and he felt himself fall back against the tower wall, propped like an unsteady statue, unable to move or speak.(HBP pg 584/545)

It's interesting to note that things are happening so fast, even Harry is momentarily confused:

He could not understand how it happened -- Expelliarmus was not a Freezing Charm -- Then, by the light of the Mark, he saw Dumbledore's wand flying in an arc over the edge of the ramparts and understood... Dumbledore had wordlessly immobilzed Harry, and the second he had taken to perform this spell had cost him the chance of defending himself. (HBP pg 584/545)

Why did Dumbledore freeze Harry? Harry was already invisible to their attackers and in no danger.

The only explanation could be that Dumbledore already knew, had already planned, that he would die this night (or appear to die), and not only did he not want Harry to become involved and possibly be injured himself, he needed Harry to be a witness, to be able to tell everyone else what happened.

Dumbledore might have also promised Snape that he would make sure that Harry would not be able to interfere, knowing how Harry feels about Snape and what Snape was about to have to do.

The supposition that it was Dumbledore's plan to do this all along is supported by the fact that he acted so quickly to do it, almost without thinking, when Draco burst in on the scene.

Harry's own assumption that the Freezing Charm was done by Dumbledore is supported by the fact the curse lifted when Dumbledore left the tower minutes later.

2. Let's All Play Dead Together [Updated 2/25/06]

While Dumbledore is trying to talk Draco out of killing him, Dumbledore proposes an interesting way out for Draco:

"I can help you, Draco." "No, you can't," said Malfoy, his wand shaking very badly indeed. "Nobody can. He told me to do it or he'd kill me. I've got no choice." "He cannot kill you if you are already dead. Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completely than you can possibly imagine." (HBP pg 591/552)

Dumbledore then offers to expand his mother in the protection, and even Lucius when he gets out of Azkaban.

This is very interesting, isn't it? Draco doesn't take him up on it, but Dumbledore is saying he has ways that could make it appear that Draco died when he really hadn't. If we believe that Dumbledore is about to fake his own death, doesn't what he's suggesting for Draco sound exactly like what we suspect that Dumbledore has planned for himself? At the very least, if Dumbledore's planning his own death, he's suggesting Draco follow a similar, yet not as drastic, plan, that he disappear as well.

This clue in Half-Blood Prince is especially interesting when placed next to another passage written much earlier. In the introduction to Quidditch Through The Ages, which was released between Goblet of Fire and Order of the Phoenix, J.K. writes as Dumbledore:

She [Madam Pince] suggested several alternatives, such as telling the people from Comic Relief U.K. that the library had burned down, or simply pretending that I had dropped dead without leaving instructions. (QttA pg viii)

Not only does J.K. mention fire in this passage (see clue #9 below), she also very clearly describes Dumbeldore himself suggesting using his own death as part of a plan. Again, exactly what we suspect Dumbledore did at the end of Half-Blood Prince.

IMPORTANT REVELATION!
UK Edition Missing Important Text!

The UK edition of Half-Blood Prince is missing some text that is included in the American edition, and it's text that is very important to this clue!

This is the text as it appears in the UK edition:

"He told me to do it or he'll kill me. I've got not choice." "Come over to the right side, Draco, and we can hide you more completely than you can possibly imagine. What is more, I can send members of the Order to your mother tonight to hide her likewise. Your father is safe at the moment in Azkaban...when the time comes we can protect him too...come over to the right side, Draco...you are not a killer..." Malfoy stared at Dumbledore. (HBP UK Edition pg 552)

But this is the same passage from the American edition (text missing from the UK edition highlighted):

"He told me to do it or he'll kill me. I've got no choice." "He cannot kill you if you are already dead. Come over to the right side Draco, and we can hide you more completely than you can possibly imagine. What is more, I can send members of the Order to your mother tonight to hide her likewise. Nobody would be surprised that you had died in your attempt to kill me -- forgive me, but Lord Voldemort probably expects it. Nor would the Death Eaters be surprised that we had captured and killed your mother -- it is what they would do themselves, after all. Your father is safe at the moment in Azkaban...When the time comes we can protect him too. Come over to the right side, Draco...you are not a killer..." Malfoy stared at Dumbledore. (HBP US Edition pg 591)

Both of the ommissions are directly related, they are about having Draco appeared to have died, so it would seem the ommisions are intentional.

Did J.K. include those lines originally, and then decide she had gone too far and made the clue too transparent and obvious? Is it possible she decided to remove them, but the lines got accidentally included in the American edition anyway?

3. Fawkes doesn't try to save Dumbledore

We've seen Fawkes come in at the last moment and save Harry's life in Chamber of Secrets:

As Harry trembled, ready to close his eyes if it turned, he saw what had distracted the snake. Fawkes was soaring around its head, and the basilisk was snapping furiously at him with fangs long and thin as sabers -- Fawkes dived. His long golden beak sunk out of sight and a sudden shower of dark blood spattered the floor. (CoS pg 318/234)

And he also saved Dumbledore in Order of the Phoenix:

... one more jet of green light had flown at Dumbledore from Voldemort's wand and the snake had struck -- Fawkes swooped down in front of Dumbledore, opened his beak wide, and swallowed the jet of green light whole. He burst into flame and fell to the floor, small, wrinkled and flightless. (OotP pg 814/719)

We know Fawkes was nearby the tower, as he shows up after Dumbledore's "death". So, why didn't Fawkes come to save Dumbledore this time?

I think the fact that he didn't makes it possible to believe that Dumbledore didn't want his life to be saved, and this supports the theory that it was Dumbledore's plan all along to die up on that tower that night.

4. The Flying Avada Kedavra [Updated 3/9/06]

As soon as I read the description of exactly what happened the moment that Snape killed Dumbledore, little red flags were popping up in my brain, but I didn't pay attention to them at first. This was actually the very first clue that alerted me to this whole thing.

Every other time we've seen the Avada Kedavra performed, the victim simply falls over dead:

He was screaming so loudly that he never heard the words the thing in the chair spoke as it raised a wand. There was a flash of green light, a rushing sound, and Frank Bryce crumbled. He was dead before he hit the floor. (GoF pg 15/19)

From high above his head, he heard a high, cold voice say, "Kill the spare." A swishing noise and a second voice, which screeched the words to the night: "Avada Kedavra!" A blast of green light blazed through Harry's eyelids, and he heard something heavy fall to ground beside him. Cedric was lying spread-eagled on the ground beside him. He was dead. (GoF pg 638/553)

However, in Half-Blood Prince, when Snape curses Dumbledore with the same spell, Dumbledore violently flies up and away from the tower:

Snape raised his wand and pointed it directly at Dumbledore. "Avada Kedavra!" A jet of green light shot from the end of Snape's wand and hit Dumbledore squarely in the chest. Harry's scream of horror never left him; silently he was forced to watch as Dumbledore was blasted into the air. For a split second, he seemed to hang suspended beneath the shining skull, and then he slowly fell backward, like a great rag doll, over the battlements and out of sight. (HBP pg 596/556)

Why would this application of the Avada Kedavra be so different from every other time we've seen it?

Perhaps his spell was different because even though those were the words Snape said, he didn't perform the killing curse at all. Remember all the importance this book gave to "nonverbal" spells? Perhaps Snape said Avada Kedavra, but the curse he was really thinking, the nonverbal one, was a different curse, one that only made it appear that Dumbledore was dead.

The possibilty that Snape said one curse and cast another nonverbally might not be as likely if we couldn't recognize the curse that was really cast, but we can! Thanks to Brave Sir Blogger and Lindsay for bringing these passages to my attention:

Both of them swung their wands above their heads and pointed them at their opponent; Snape cried: "Expelliarmus!" There was a dazzling flash of scarlet light and Lockhart was blasted off his feet: He flew backward off the stage, smashed into the wall, and slid down it to sprawl on the floor. (CoS pg 190/142)

Harry made up his mind in a split second. Before Snape could take even one step toward him, he had raised his wand. "Expelliarmus!" he yelled -- except that his wasn't the only voice that shouted. There was a blast that made the door rattle on its hinges; Snape was lifted off his feet and slammed into the wall, then slid down it to the floor, a trickle of blood oozing from under his hair. He had been knocked out. Harry looked around. Both Ron and Hermione had tried to disarm Snape at exactly the same moment. (PoA pg 361/265)

In these examples from Chamber of Secrets and Prisoner of Azkaban, different wizards are issuing the Expelliarmus spell with the results being described almost exactly the same way, the victim being voilenty blasted up and backwards. This also happens to be similar to the description of when Dumbledore is attacked up in the tower. So, even though Snape said Avada Kedavra, the evidence from the books shows that the nonverbal curse he cast was Expelliarmus!

Even the title of the chapter this all takes place in is suspicous, "The Lightning-Struck Tower". Even though this is the name of the ominous tarot card that Trelawney was worried about back on page 543/507 in chapter 25, is it possible that J.K. is hinting here that the spell was not Avada Kedavra, but some other spell that had lightening-type effects instead?

But there is even another clue that Dumbledore's flying off the tower that night was a prearranged ruse between himself and Snape. Back in chapter nineteen, when Harry orders Dobby and Kreacher to follow Malfoy around in an effort to figure out what he was up to, Dobby replies:

"Yes, Harry Potter!" said Dobby at once, his great eyes shining with excitement. "And if Dobby does it wrong, Dobby will throw himself off the topmost tower, Harry Potter!" (HBP pg 422/395)

Notice, Dobby says "throw himself", not something like "you can throw me". Also, Dobby specifically mentions "the topmost tower", exactly the place where the "death" of Dumbledore later occurs in the same way.

Now, even though we know Dobby gets around and probably hears a lot of things he shouldn't in the castle, we're not suggesting Dumbledore could so easily slip up and let Dobby be privy to such a secret plan. But what we are suggesting is that J.K. is not above using something Dobby says to plant a clue for us that later on in the story it would be Dumbledore, himself, who planned the whole death cherade, and caused himself, or arranged for himself, to be thrown from the top of the tallest Astronomy tower.

5. Don't Point That At Me Unless You Mean It

Several times in the course of the Harry Potter books, J.K. has told us that the Avada Kedavra is not a curse you can make lightly.

In Goblet of Fire, the fake Mad Eye Moody tells his DADA class:

"Avada Kedavra's a curse that needs a powerful bit of magic behind it -- you could all get your wands out now and point them at me and say the words, and I doubt I'd get so much as a nosebleed." (GoF pg 217/192)

And in Order of the Phoenix, we learn more about Avada Kedavra when Harry tries to curse Bellatrix:

Hatred rose in Harry such that he had never known before. He flung himself out from behind the fountain and bellowed "Crucio!" Bellatrix screamed. The spell had knocked her off her feet, but she did not writhe or shriek with pain as Neville had -- she was already on her feet again ... "Never used an Unforgivable Curse before, have you, boy?" she yelled. "You need to mean them, Potter! You need to really want to cause pain -- to enjoy it ..." (OotP pg 810/715)

If Snape was really working on Dumbledore's orders to make it look to the world as if Snape had killed him, even if he had used the real Avada Kedavra, if he had not really meant it, if he really didn't want to kill Dumbledore, then isn't it possible that the curse didn't kill Dumbledore, but only injured him badly?

6. Fawkes' Lament

Directly after Dumbledore's murder, as everyone assembled in the hospital wing, Harry tells everyone Snape did it. He stops, overcome with emotion, and right then, something very important happens:

Madame Pomfrey burst into tears. Nobody paid her any attention except Ginny, who whispered, "Shh! Listen!" (HBP pg 614/573)

Everyone was there, Ron and his parents, Hermione, Lupin, Tonks. Yet it is Madame Pomfrey who J.K. tells us is struck by this turn of events. Continuing:

Gulping, Madame Pomfrey pressed her fingers to her mouth, her eyes wide. Somewhere out in the darkness, a phoenix was singing in a way Harry had never heard before; a stricken lament of terrible beauty. (HBP pg 614/573)

J.K. spends another paragraph on how the phoenix song echos their grief, but while doing so mentions:

Harry felt, as he had felt about the Phoenix song before, that the music was inside him, not without ... How long they stood there, listening, he did not know, nor why it seemed to ease their pain a little to listen... (HBP pg 615/573)

And then McGonagall enters, changes the subject, and the phoenix song is forgotten.

Many minutes later, after all the retelling of the night's affair, J.K. mentions Fawkes is still at it:

They all fell silent. Fawkes's lament was still echoing over the dark grounds outside. (HBP pg 621/579)

...but Harry's thoughts move right on to other things, like wondering where Dumbledore's body is now. Many minutes later still, as this meeting breaks up and Harry is following McGonagall up to what is now her office, J.K. interjects:

The corridors outside were deserted and the only sound was the distant phoenix song. (HBP pg 625/583)

Whatever it was he was doing, Fawkes was working hard at it, and not giving up. Yet we are supposed to believe, as in the title of this chapter, "The Phoenix Lament", that it is only Dumbledore's pet echoing everyone's grief?

Are we so easily to forget that phoenix tears have powerful healing powers?

Significantly, it is the healer, Madame Pomfrey, who is brought to tears by the phoenix song. She knows the healing power of the phoenix well. She gulps with eyes wide. She recognizes something special is going on.

Also, J.K. goes out of her way to point out the healing qualities of the phoenix song, Harry feels it inside, the way he did last time he was healed by one, and most importantly, it seems to ease their pain!

From these passages, it certainly seems that J.K. wants us to know that Fawkes is doing some healing!

Perhaps Fawkes is not powerful enough to bring someone back from the Avada Kedavra, but what if Dumbledore was not really hit by an Avada Kedrava, and instead hit with half a spell, or a spell to make him appear dead (as explained in the clues above)?

7. Anyone Seen Dumbledore's Wand Lately?

At the very begining of the big scene between Draco, Dumbledore and Snape, one of the first things that happens is Dumbledore loses his wand:

The door burst open and somebody erupted through it and shouted, "Expelliarmus!" ... by the light of the Mark, he saw Dumbledore's wand flying in an arc over the edge of the ramparts ... (HBP pg 584/545)

But where is his wand now?

We know a wizard's wand is very important to him, and a wand that belonged to a wizard as powerful as Dumbledore would be a very important item to know the whereabouts of, something you wouldn't want falling into the wrong hands.

This clue might not mean as much if we didn't know the customs of wizards in such occasions, but we do! Five chapters ago, when Harry and Slughorn were consoling Hagrid over the death of Aragog, Hagrid and Sluggy sang a song about a wizard called Odo, and Sluggy sang the lines:

And Odo the hero, they bore him back home,
To the place that he'd known as a lad,
They laid him to rest with his hat inside out
And his wand snapped in two, which was sad. (HBP pg 488/456)

But as far as we know, they didn't snap Dumbledore's wand in two. After the scene at the top of the tower, Dumbledore's wand is simply never mentioned again.

Is it possible that Dumbledore's wand is missing because Dumbledore still has his wand, still needs his wand, because he's not dead?

Or if he is dead, was the plan very carefully crafted so that Dumbledore's wand would be hidden away for safe-keeping, preventing the Death Eaters, who's arrival on the grounds of the school was imminent, from getting their hands on it?

8. No Body, No Crime

The last time we really saw Dumbledore's body was when Harry is kneeling over it shortly after he has been killed by Snape the previous day.

Now, we see Hagrid carry the body of Dumbledore into his funeral, but it's covered:

Hagrid was walking slowly up the aisle between the chairs. He was crying quite silently, his face gleaming with tears, and in his arms, wrapped in purple velvet spangled with golden stars, was what Harry knew to be Dumbledore's body. (HBP pg 643/599)

We never really see Dumbledore's body at the funeral. How do we know it was there at all?

9. Caution: Dumbledore Is Flammable

As part of the funeral service, a fire ignites around the body of Dumbledore, and when it subsides, his body is encased in a white marble tomb.

Again, we don't see the body, either before or after the fire.

But more importantly, no one lights the fire, it just happens on its own. A body bursting into flame on its own. That sound like anyone we know?

We've seen Fawkes do that several times now in the course of the Harry Potter books, and you know what happens to Fawkes after every time it does.

Earlier in the book, we saw several instances where Dumbledore uses fire, an important aspect of the symbol of a phoenix. When he first meets Tom Riddle in the orphanage, to demonstrate he's a wizard, he sets Tom's wardrobe on fire.

And he conjures fire to protect Harry and himself from the infiri in the cave.

And after all this, in case we didn't get the allusions to a phoenix, J.K. reminds us just in case:

White smoke spiraled into the air and made strange shapes: Harry thought, for one heart-stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but next second the fire had vanished. (HBP pg 645/601)

All these clues seem to suggest that if Dumbledore really did die, he has the ability to be reborn out of the ashes of his death, either under his own power, or with the help of the healing powers of Fawkes.

Besides, even if Dumbledore's body was there when it erupted into flame, we know that doesn't mean anything to a wizard!

Non-magic people (more commonly known as muggles) were particularly afraid of magic in medieval times, but not very good at recognizing it. On the rare occasion that they did catch a real witch or wizard, burning had no effect whatsoever. The witch or wizard would perform a basic Flame Freezing Charm and then pretend to shriek with pain while enjoying a gentle, tickling sensation. (PoA pg 2/7)

So, who do they think they were fooling at the FUNERAL?

He died in tye sixth book and Harry dies in the 8th or 7th book?

I think dumbledore really dead...

In the book,it said that Dumbledore dead but I hope it's isn't...it such a waste to lost such a great headmaster...

The Phoenix reference is the only thing that makes me think he isn't dead.

at first I was looking for reasons to show dumbledore was alive but I gave up, but I never considered your facts and they make since Dunbledore LIVES!

YES!!

DUMBLEDORE is DEAD..he got killed by Severus Snape in the sixth book namely, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince.

I just hope that, J.K Rowling will be able to bring him back to life in the coming 7th book, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows

All the information in this post is really amazing and full of references and backup support.. i just hope that these are all true and that dumbledore is still alive.

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er...hiz... ithink i type in the wrong place juz now... heys i dont think dubledore is dead...and lol 8th series are you even a harry pottter fan??k lars if have i did be really glad and the clues are way cool and y is there site advertisements here??!!

Yeah Dumbledore really is dead.
Here is a mugglenet.com posting: Dumbledore IS really dead. "Everyone needs to move through the five stages of grief" and get past his death. She also apologizes to DumbledoreIsNotDead.com for ruining the purpose of their site. ('she' is JKR)

Im a firm believer that Dunbledore IS NOT DEAD!!! however i feel that potter WILL infact die in book 7. MAybe i'm wrong we'll see!
That thing about Neville is interesting though but i dont think its gonna prove t be a very important part of the story.

DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah he's gone.

Jo already confirmed that months ago.

So yeah. All you people who still believe he's alive... Sorry.

I have read the 'clues' that lead most people to believe he is still alive... but I still trust Jo. Considering she did write the books.

It doesn't mean he won't come back in the 7th as a picture or something Harry can use... But he is dead.

Yes,Dumbledore is really deas,but I hope JK can bring him back in spirit,to help Harry defeat Voldemort once and for all. That would be a fitting ending.

J.K Rowling stated in an interview that Dumbledore is in fact dead.
She said she knew that there was even a site that was www.dumbledore's not dead .com or whatever, but it is the sad fact that Dumbledore is in fact DEAD.
By the words of the famous author herself.

DUMBLEDORE IS DEAD.... for realz.

Who is to say that J.K. Rowling is being entirely truthful when she says (and I've yet to see this interview everyone keeps talking about) that Dumberdore is dead?

Could she mean dead, as in yes he is dead at the moment and could possibly be brought back?

Or dead metaphorically speaking, when you say "So-and-so is dead to me!"

Or maybe she just doesn't want to ruin the book before it comes out. I haven't read it - as no one has - so I don't know what's going to happen, but I say that people shouldn't be so keen to believe everything they read on the internet.

Yes hes dead...unfourtunatly... *starts crying*

this is a really cool thought i actually thought he was dead i hope not i can't wait for this last book well i know i'm syked

This is an excellent thread... and it finally explains how JKR could be correct about Dumbledore dying, yet he still be alive... he's reborn from the ashes!!

But I have one question that I hope someone will discuss... when he's reborn, will he be a baby? Or due to some magic, will he be able to be reborn at his same age, with his same memories and everything?

In one of Rowling's interviews, she metioned to us " Don't expect Dumbledore to do a Gandalf", and to those who don't know Lord of the Rings, it mean he will not come back to life, and since she already confirmed that her really is dead, i don't think there should be other suspicions, though it is fun to find clues about it.

Yeah, I do find it puzzeling that JKR said so many specific things about Dumbledore being dead... the reason I find them puzzeling is because then why did she put soooo many things in book 6 that seem to foreshadow his return? I mean it's not like there's just a red herring here and there... there's tons of foreshadowing about it! I can't wait to read the book to see what that was all about.

I think that's why fans have so much trouble believing Dumbledore is dead (myself included) because the book's foreshadowing elements directly contradict what JKR said.... not that I think she's lied to us in any way, but her plots are known to go in unforeseen directions so maybe her words have unforeseen meanings as well. That'll be half the fun of reading the book... unraveling the mystery of what seems like a contradiction between her words and the foreshadowing elements of book 6.

Wow, get a life dude.  If JKR said that he's dead, then he's dead.  If he wasn't dead, then she would ignore the question when asked.

The great thing about fantasy is that nothing is carved in stone.  Dumbledore may well return, as may Sirius Black.  It is always sad when characters die.  I hated that Cedric Diggory had to die.  But that is how things are.  But, as I said, in the world of fantasy, there are no limitations.  Perhaps Dumbledore and Sirius needed to go underground to prepare for a confrontation with Voldermort.   That Snape turned to the dark side was disappointing.  Had he fooled Dumbledore all those years?  Dumbledore seemed to genuinely trust him.  Perhaps that is all part of a grand scheme to eliminate Voldermort.  We don't have long to wait for answers.

Yes...JK ROWLING already confirmed it...

but if dumbledore wasn't really dead and someone asked j.k rowling if he was, would she REALLY admit that dumbledore was still alive? i mean, wouldn't it just ruin the whole ending? and wouldn't saying no comment or ignoring it be pretty obvious that he is alive? it's a yes or no question, and if she's gonna choose not to comment instead of just saying no, then she'd basically just be saying that he is alive, but i can't tell you that because it'd ruin the whole suspense on the outcome of the series.
so really, maybe, j.k. rowling is only confirming his death because if he was alive, she couldn't just ignore it because then it would just be a dead giveaway.

oooo, I just thaut of this, what if dumbledore comes back as an ghost? lolz wouldnt that support both theries?

AFTER READING THE FOLOWING INFO ABOVE"DUMBLEDORE'S CLUES" MY CONCLUSIION HAS CHANGED....I NOW SAY THAT ALBUSZ DUMBLEDORE IS NOT DEAD!!!!!!!!

He's really dead...

according to mugglenet.com he is dead..they said that thay interviewed JK rowling and Jk said he is really dead.....and mugglenet.com said that maybe we'll see Dumbledore in just in a portrait like The Fat Lady..or as a ghost...the only question i really want to know is not about Dumbledore..its about Siruis Black...im wondering if he's really dead....

Damn, that's too long for me to read. I hate reading. Anyway, I would say he's really dead but it's just such a waste. Erika, I was wondering the same thing too. I hope that he'll come back.

HE IS DEAD!!! JK ROWLING EVEN SAID HE WAS DEAD!!!

THE ONLY WAY HARRY CAN TALK TO HIM NOW IS THAT EVERY TIME A HEADMASTER/MISTRESS DIES THEIR PORTRAIT IS PUT IN THE OFFICE OF THE NEW HEADMASTER/MISTRESS. aND IN THE WIZARDING WORLD PORTRAITS AND PAINTINGS CAN TALK AND MOVE!!!

not to be mean. lol

sadly dumbledore is dead. be it fiction or the actor. he died. dun believe miie? take a close look in the first harry potter movie and the third one i think. they changed the actor cus he's dead. god bless... T.T

he will die, in the sixth book (poor professor dumbledore, he's my favorite) but he will be alive again to help harry, meanwhile, he can be alive because he is very powerful and (not to mention my favorite character) he and voldemort and harry is (or has) the same powerful power..

Don't think he is dead,  I also think Snape is  a goody on Dumbledores side

someone up there said "im osrry u guys JK mentioned he's dead."

NO!

she said, Dumbledore is bugging her mind! and the reporter said 'I thought he's dead!' and she said "not really, it's hard to explain.... but you'll read it in book 7th anyway."

she didnot clearly finish her statement!
which means we are still unsure if he is dead or not.

and I think He is in someway, alive.

it could be that he CHOOSES to stay as ghost. remember, Nick told Harry only few wizards choose that path. it could bethat dumbledore would choose to be a ghost, remaining and watching Harry progress and kil voldemort, and maybe hecould come back just like Voldemort.

or it could be that he's not dead at all, he's just faking his own death for a certain purpose.

We have to consider this... that Dumbledore's enchantment would be expired on book 7th, birthday of harry. the one that protects Harry from Voldemort with blood of Lily potter, or Aunt petunia.

then Harry is on his own.

maybe... just MAYBE.

DUmbledore wants to see how harry grows & succeeds like he did in book 1. he gave the clues, and he waited for harry to solve them. rmember ron sayin those?

the book would be published by no more than a week, we can all check our theories on that day.
hope Harry doesnt die though....

Okay, Im really sorry to break this to you all, I was devestated as well, but even though J.K. Rowling's writing is never what it seems, we all need to face the facts - Dumbldore is dead. It's simple

I ... AM SO excited about the 7th book! I think thats the one i should really buy as personal collection...cos literally? i didnt buy any of the books, hehehe... ok the point. AS what woodstock26 has been mentining here, seems logical, and if ths is what it says in the last book that Dumbledore is alive.. wouldnt that be more exciting? And woodstock26 is very correct. Dumbledore's element is Fire. Some witches/wizards would have water, lightning and etc. elements, but Dumbledore is one of the great wizards that plays with Fire and uses it as a shield. He is very familair with this element. And so far, from the three books ive read (1,2,3, as 4th im on the 5th chapter sadly) , Dumbledore's weapon is fire. And he was able to counter attack Valdemort's dragon fire in the 5th movie. As quickly as it should be that saved his life. SO i do believe that Dumbledore isn't dead. With this thought it's gonna make the story even more interesting... SO which part is he going to appear again? ^_^ And who is going to end up dead? Will it really be Harry , Valdemort , or someone else who's willing to sacrifice himself for Harry's sake?

Dumbledore IS dead. Just think about it. It says he was KILLED by Snape. & thats a fact.

YES!!!!  Dumbledore is dead. Though they will still be able to talk to his portrait in the school. be shor to check out MuggleCast on iTunes!

He dies on book seven but some sources say he will appear on book seven these are just rumors better wait until July 21 or when the day you'll get a copy of book7

Sadly, Yes

I can't believe that dumbeldore dies from SNAPE! it's so sad...

I hope that Dumbledore is not dead at all..There are many clues telling the possibilities that he's still alive and just hiding somewhere. But the question is that.. Is Harry going to live or die on the 7th book? "as what the prophecy said,, "No one lives while the other survive." So is really harry going to die? Let's just see..I'm looking forward to read the 7th book!!

he is dead.Aww so sad la.

Dumbledore is most likely dead because at the start of the 7th and final Harry Potter book it talks about former professor Severus Snape and how he is interacting with someone named "Yaxley" who none of our readers have ever heard of.This hints that Snape and this character "Yaxley" are Death Eaters.If you really put your mind into the story you will be able to conclude that Dumbledore is, in fact, dead.


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I havent started reading the last book yet, but i dont want 2 believe that Albus Dumbledore is dead.
I always thought that he would be there for him, not matter wat. (Great guy i tell ya)

But the latest responce i can quite believe. And ofcourse,
J.K. Rowling has definetely confirmed that he's dead.

very sad, but definetely true.

this sucks... jk rowling shudve described his death not different from the others who died from the death curse!

sorry to bust your bubble but dumbledore really is dead and in the last book moody dies and lupin and tonks and half the characters oh and voldemort accidently kills himself thinking he is killing harry!!

i think that she did his death how it should've been done b/c he was a really important character and still is in book seven...and if you've read book seven then you'll find out that Dumbledore had been planning for Snape to kill him and that Snape is actually a good guy...SRRY BUDDY...HE'S DEAD!!!

no..he's not dead..i mean,he can't be!! he's very important in the novel..hehe

iKno it's sad, but Dumbledore really is dead. It is sad to see him leave.. @ least he didn't go in vain. Read the 7th book tho to see what i Mean

i heard that he's not going to dead...he has 7 lives n he keep it in some hidden places that nobody knows...

HE IS REALLY DEAD!!!
I've finished reading all of the books... including the last which is the 7th one, the deathly hallows.
He is really dead... though I won't deny the fact that he really planned it for himself.
He's already dying that time and he asked Snape to do it...

IT'S REALLY TRUE THAT DUMBLEDORE IS DEAD AND HE'S KILLED BY SNAPE BUT DONT THINK THAT SNPAE IS BAD CAUSE DUMBLEDORE ORDER SNAPE TO KILL HIM! JUST BUY THE BOOK AND READ IT! CAUSE I DONT WANT TO STORY TELL IT SO JUST BUY! THE HARRY POTTER AND THE HALF-BLOOD PRINCE

But, you never know if Dumbledore or Sirius might come back in the 8th book. : )

DUMBLEDORE IS DEAD!

Yes

Dumbledore is really dead. He just came back in Harry's dream

So we should'n be sad

yes dumbledore had planned this the whole time. i finished the 7th book in within hours of starting it. dumbledore had planned to die so harry could stay alive. harry took the memories of snape's love for lily and found out that dumbledore asked him to kill him and needed a witness. harry also found out later that voldemort could not kill harry because on the night harry got infused with the scar also took part of voldemort's soul (parseltounge ability). that meant if voldemort killed harry and there were no more horcruxes then harry would be ressurected and voldemort would be killed. (p.s. mrs. weasley swears.)

i dont think dumbledore is dead! i know dumbledore and snape planned it!

i think the great head master plan it, i dont believe he pas away.. . well it could be a bait.. .

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dumbledore's not dead i can't take it!!but accrding to the book he will die!!

but i'm denying to myself

he is the closest person to harry!

so if he'll die then harry will be left alone

but ht ebiggest fact is that YES he is dead..............

duh!
the last book is already out.
of cuz he's dead luhs!
-.-
however,
INTERSTING
for the FIRST reply .

really good.
when the last book had not been out yet.

DUMBLEDORE'S REALLY DEAD....

i have read the 7th book...

although dumbledore is dead.... it's not true that snape killed dumbledore...

dumbledore planned his death and requested snape to do it...

it was merely part of his plan....

and snape is not voldemort's spy...

he's in the circle of voldemort because dumbledore told him so....

ya i don't beleive hes died ether but enless there is a missing page in the 7th book then i think he is pretty much gane 4 ever but i think if he had 2 die then at least have voldemort kill him then it would be a lot better.

,.,.Hey GuyS!!!

,.,.I juSt joiined this group and thought I could post something...

,.,.It's sad to say but Dumbledore is dead. Harry found him. When Voldemort "killed" Harry...

,.,.maYbe there Are still peOple Here who still didn't read the 7th book eh?!?

,.,.weLL, uNtil Here fiRst...

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Read Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows chapter... uh... dunno what number but it's called King's Cross....

A lot [[not really i guess]]] of questions are answered

OF COURSE DUMBLEDORE IS DEAD!!!

Read the last book of Harry Potter (book 7- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows)  it's there.  He really is dead because of his age.   Snape wasn't the one who killed him.  His death is planned, they just 'showed' everyone that Snape killed him because of the Elder Wand Albus Dumbledore is holding (The Elder Wand is the most powerful wand in the whole Witches and Wizards world).  The last book is great.  I think it's the best book of all Harry Potter books.  All of the things which happened on the previous books were explained there, since the childhood of Lily 'Evans' (Harry's mom) [--> I think it's the last name of Lily, I can't remember but I am sure that it starts with an E ], James Potter and Severus Snape to Harry's children (It's in the Epilogue..) It's really nice

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well I think the better more recent question is........



IS DUMBLEDORE REALLY GAY?!!!! WTF?

did anyone hear that JK Rowling recently made a press release statement telling the whole world that Dumbledore was gay?

I can't believe that

DUMBLEDORE IS GAY!

anyway, why does JK Rowling still telling us this facts?

can't she write another book? however the fact that Dumbledore is Gay, isn't a good news.

I hope she'll write another book, just like Harry Potter, maybe she can write the stories of Harry Potter sons/daughter..that maybe very interesting story..

Why is the fact that Albus was a homosexual not good news other than it confirms that he and Minerva were never an item?

yes dumbledore's really dead. he says so himself in the 7th book. anyways even if snape had NOT cast avada kedavra, then dumbledore would still have died, though not as quickly and painlessly as when snape had.

yes dumbledore is dead. in the seventh book he doesn't come back to life, dumbledore even tells harry he is really dead in a vision.

however severus snape did not murder dumbledore, it was planned between them. if you read the sixth book you know that dumbledore injured himself from wearing the cursed ring. well the curse was there for good. snap was to kill dumbledore at the end of the year so the death eaters would truley think that he was on there side.

he was going to die any way.

and it was also so draco wouldn't have to kill him.

(sobbing....huhuhuhhh...)yap hes gone.......

i already read the 7thbook and he didnt came alive........

the 1st reply was really interesting but sorry hes really gone...........

DUMBLEDORE IS REALLY DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!

however hes really going 2 die anyway.......

just so sad that the harry potter book if series had reach its ending.......

JOANNE KATHLEEN ROWLING IS REALLY GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sad to say, but yes.. because of the treachery of one person, not to mentioned 'SNAPE'!!!

I hate him to much..... If i can only curse him....

yes his indeed dead because it was an order from Dumbledore himself to snape kill him in critical conditions as to favor of voldemort,another fact abuot Dumbledore's death is because of Marlvoro's Ring a True Heir of Salazar Slytherin, the ring was the item w/c has a HOROCRUX (book 6) Dumbledore able to destroy it and kill the spare of Lord Voldemort's splitted soul there are seven of them including the Famous Harry Potter. The effect of wearing the ring shortens the life span of the person who is wearing it into 1yr or less,thats why its a good time to please Voldemort that his master died the greatest wizard known.Snape's loyalty is owned by Dumbledore after the fall of the dark lordYOU-KNOW-WHO NOT U-NO-POO,HE-WHO-MUST-NOT-BE-NAMED

Yuh he is dead
but he comes bk kind of in the last book..
and wtf about dumbledore bein gay?? who eva sed he was??

IN THE WORDS OF "HAPPY CLOUD" (ABOVE)

Who is to say that J.K. Rowling is being entirely truthful when she says (and I've yet to see this interview everyone keeps talking about) that Dumberdore is dead?

Could she mean dead, as in yes he is dead at the moment and could possibly be brought back?

Or dead metaphorically speaking, when you say "So-and-so is dead to me!"

Or maybe she just doesn't want to ruin the book before it comes out. I haven't read it - as no one has - so I don't know what's going to happen, but I say that people shouldn't be so keen to believe everything they read on the internet

Heyy, I think YOU think a little too much!
Dumbledore is DEAD,okay?
anyway, is dumbledore really a GAY??

. .J.K. is a very clever author. .see? he made us think of what really happened to Dumbledore . i have read the HBP and he really died but even if he's dead he still has a way to help Harry to defeat Voldemort. His soul. i read the 7th book and that's what happened. Without his help Harry might be dead.
just believe what you want to believe. we all have our own imaginations anyway.

yes dumbledore is really dead and i don't think he will ever come back to life.  in the seventh book when harry dies they talk for a short time and straighten things out but dumbledore is dead none the less.

Dudes, dumbledore is really dead. You can confirm it in the seventh book, but his brilliant ideas still lives on (wouldn't want to spoil to those who haven't read the book yet), before he died he planned many things for Harry, and his ideas made harry survive voldemort. Even though he's dead in the seventh book, his ideas and plans and story became one of the crucial part of the novel, especially the last one. And, there are a lot of characters who died in the last novel, and i didnt expect that they would die there.

HEY GUYS THERE IS NO 8TH BOOK! AS YOU HAVE ALREADY READ THE HALLOWS, IT WAS FINISHED. BUT, I THINK DUMBLEDORE HAS WAYS TO KEEP A SECRET. I MEAN, HE HID MANY OF HIS DARKEST SECRETS. AND MAYBE ONE OF THEM IS HIS DEATH.

AND HAVE YOU ALREADY READ THE 7TH BOOK? I FORGOT THE PAGE AND THE CHAPTER AND ALSO THE EXACT DETAILS OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN THERE. BUT HAVE YOU REMEMBERED? WHEN VOLDEMORT WAS HUNTING FOR THE ELDER'S WAND? HE WENT TO HOGWARTS FOR IT, BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT THE ELDER WAND IS DUMBLEDORE'S WAND? HE OPENED THE CASKET AND GET DUMBLEDORE'S WAND?.. RIGHT? JUST FIND IT IN THE DEATHLY HALLOWS BOOK AND YOU WILL SEE..

There is technically an 8th book. J.K Rowling release only a few copies of a short stories book after the 7th.

Oh my god.
Read all the books before you say you "hate" Snape...
If you haven't--then shut your mouth.
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well, yes! He dies....  

Yes snape killed him with the avaka kedavra curse

His DEAD unfortunately... I still can't take it! ! I was so sad..
But Harry not dead.. He will be save until the last book..
In the end, he and Ginny got married and have 2 kids!

he is u read the book

LOOK IVE RED ALL THE BOOKS DUMBLEDORE DOSE NOT COME BACK IF HE DID THEN I MISSED IT BUT I READ THEM ALL THE TIME DUMBLEDORE DOSE COME BACK IN THE 7TH BUT ONLY FOR A CHAPTER BUT THAT WAS ONLY WHEN HARRY WAS KILLED BE "VOLDY" AS PEEVES CALLED HIM BECAUSE HARRY HAT TO DIE BECUSE WHEN "VOLDY" WAS IN THE FOREST HARRY WENT TO HIM BECUASE WHEN SNAPE DIED (BY THE WAY HE WAS A GOOD GUY)HE GAVE HARRY A MEMORY OF WHICH CONTAIN HIS MOTHER AND FATHER AND THEN CONTAINING DUMBLEDORE WHERE DUMBLEDORE SAID THAT WHEN "VOLDY" GOT HALF KILLED (I'LL EXPLAIN IN A MINUTE)WHEN HE TRYED TO KILL HARRY WHEN HE WAS 1 A PART OF "VOLDY" CATCHED ON TO HARRY SO HARRY WOULD HAVE TO DIE IF HE WANTED TO KILL HIM BUT WHEN HARRY DOSE DIE HE ENDS UP IN A WHITE WORLD WHERE HALF WAY THROUGH THE CHAPTER ITS KINGS CROSS(WHERE HARRY CATCHED THE HOGWARTS EXPRESS)HE TALKS TO DUMBLEDORE AND THEN HE WAKES UP AND HES THE ONLY PERSON IN HISTORY TO SURVIVE THE KILLING CURED TWICE I MUST SAY BUT JK EXPLAINS ALL THIS IN THE 7TH BOOK SO BEFORE U ALL START SAYING HE MIGHT COME BACK HE WONT BUT I WILL SAY HARRY HAS 3 KIDS WITH GINNY AND THEY ARE LILLY POTTER,JAMESPOTTER AND ALBUS SEVERUS POTTER I DONT KNOW THE OTHER TWOS MIDDLE NAMES BUT THATS NOT THE POINT THE HOLE POINT OF ME WRIGHTING THIS TO U LOT IS THAT DUMBLEDORE DOSE NOT COME BACK BUT HES STILL IN THE BOOK SO DONT GO GETTING UR HOPES UP AND THINK HE WILL BECUASE HE DOESNT I DONT HAVE THE BOOK WITH ME SO I CANT WRIGHT OUT THE CHAPTER BUT IF I HAD I WOULD AND LOADS OF PEOPLE DIE IN THE BOOK I'LL SAY NOW
1.ALBUS DUMBLEDORE(I KNOW HES DIES IS THE 6TH BUT I DONT CARE AND HE WAS BRILL SO IM SAYING HIM)
2.SEVERUS SNAPE
3.DOBBY(DONT KNOW HIS LAST NAME DONT EVEN KNOW IF HES GOT ONE)
4.TONKS
5.LUPIN(TONKS AND LUPIN HAVE A BABY CALLED TADDY AND HARRY IS GODFARTHER LIKE SIURIS WAS TO HARRY)
6.COLLIN CREEVEE
7.FRED WEASLY( I THINK IT WAS SAD 2 BECUASE AT THE START OF THE BOOK GEOGRE LOST AN EAR)
I DONT KNOW IF THERES ANY MORE BUT IF THERE IS TELL ME

SO THAT EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW DUMBLEDORE DOSENT COME BACK AND WHO DIES

Dumbledore Dead In Sixth Part Harry Potter And The Half Blood Prince

The Sixth Part Movie Is Coming In The Summer Of 2009, I'm Excited To See That Part.